Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0pw1OF-00006TC; Wed, 27 Apr 94 07:38 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0412; Wed, 27 Apr 94 07:38:27 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0409; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 07:38:26 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9722; Wed, 27 Apr 1994 06:36:51 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Apr 1994 00:34:00 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: afterthought logical connection X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 985 Lines: 23 For all the niceties of Lojban logical connection, I came across something we can't do (I don't think) tonight in conversation session. The statement was something like ...sampymau binxo ... [to which I wanted to add in afterthought ... ja [plujymau binxo], so as to properly group the metaphor as [sampymau binxo] ja [plujymau binxo] Unfortunatley, it seems that once you have said "binxo", there is no easy way to go back and strongly tie it to sampymau. The closest I could come in afterthought was sampymau [binxo ja plujymau] binxo sampymau [binxo ja [plujymau bo binxo] What I really wanted was to be able to say "ke'e" before the ja even though I had not said "ke", and have it (presumably by default, since more complex sentences would be ambiguous), presume the "ke" at the beginning of the tanru - this seems like it will happen often in list-like OR tanru . Alas, I suspect that wouldn;t be possible. Anyone have any ideas, or is this one we are stuck with? lojbab