From lojbab Fri May 20 01:15:52 1994 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 01:16:53 -0400 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199405200516.AA21590@access3.digex.net> To: lojbab@access.digex.net Subject: Re: ta'e/na'o Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO I will go out on a limb, without checking notes and hence relying on memory. A check with pc may be ultimately required, though I am fairly sure my notes will resolve it if the following seems unacceptable. na'o is intended to be objective, covering most of the interval, but as John said, "most" being determined by context. ta'e is intended to be a subjective evaluation, as John said, selected with reference to the observed behavior (I am not sure this would necessarily be an agent's behavior - a patient could also typically experience something under some conditions). ta'e might also be seen as correlating to the high probability that the event would occur during the interval, whereas na'o is talking more about how much of the interval is associated with the event. If these seem contradictory or incompatible, we need to find the notes (not easy these days) or check with pc. There may be some clarification in the discussion of TAhE in very old cmavo lists, but I may be being optimistic. lojbab