Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0q4cna-00006YC; Sat, 21 May 94 01:12 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8633; Sat, 21 May 94 01:12:19 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8628; Sat, 21 May 1994 01:12:19 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0173; Sat, 21 May 1994 00:10:35 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 14:56:10 +0100 Reply-To: Colin Fine Sender: Lojban list From: Colin Fine Subject: Re: screws To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 500 Lines: 16 >A "klupe" physically consists of a helix (the "te klupe") wrapped around a >cylinder (the "ve klupe"). Thanks, that helps. So the two terbri are physical objects, not (eg) measurements. But it does make me think again of an archimedean screw, one design for which is a plastic tube wrapped round a spindle (lo tubnu cu te klupe fo lo jendu?) but is no kind of fastener. In fact, if we think of a screw fastener, I don't find the ve klupe to be a likely or natural tergismu at all. Colin