Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0q4ckA-00006YC; Sat, 21 May 94 01:08 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8581; Sat, 21 May 94 01:08:48 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8577; Sat, 21 May 1994 01:08:37 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0048; Sat, 21 May 1994 00:06:53 +0200 Date: Fri, 20 May 1994 01:29:37 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: drata preti X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1401 Lines: 25 A screw (and its related structures like gears) has teeth/threads on a wheel/axle structure. x3 is supposed to talk about the former, x4 about the latter. When talking about screws, for example, one might talk about 10 threads per inch (x3) and the screw is 3 inches long and 1/4 inch in diameter with a Phillip's head (x4). The bootom line is that I tried to group an inderminate number of properties of the two major components of a screw, into 2 places corresponding to the two components. This came about during a short phase when I was expanding places of all tools/machines/apparatuses tomake clear in the place structure the nature of the classification (remember the distinction between too and apparatus isbetween 'form determines/constrains function' and function determines/constrains form. A tool is a pre-existing form used for a useful function; and apparatus has a function, which someone designs a form to implement. This emphasis on form and function meant that we needed to have form represented in the place structure, since function usually was already there. This led to a lot of added places, whereupon I suddenly regained my sanity, and eliminated the places where I thought they might be unnecessary. No one until now has questioned the result (maybe no one looked at it - one reason I kept on asking people to review the list). Hope this clears something up. lojbab