Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qF6Ay-00001WC; Sat, 18 Jun 94 22:35 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0455; Sat, 18 Jun 94 22:35:55 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0451; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 22:35:54 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1540; Sat, 18 Jun 1994 21:34:01 +0200 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 15:35:34 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: (kau) and (du'u) and (jei) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 819 Lines: 31 la i,n cusku di'e > You asked for it. :-) > > Subject: TECH: Desperately seeking properties [...] > So we could simply use a parallel construction with {ka}. > > lo'e kanba cu zmadu mi leka tu'okau da tuple de > Goats have more legs than me. I liked it at first, but I think even this use conflicts with indirect questions. mi djuno le du'u lo'e kanba mi zmadu le ka xokau da tuple de Could mean: 1- I know that goats have more legs than me. 2- I know the number of legs which beleg us (each of me and the goats), I being in this property surpassed by the goats. (Or something like that.) (2-) doesn't make much sense in this case, but it does have a different meaning. Unless we force {kau} to act on the deepest abstraction, but I don't know if that's such a good idea. Jorge