From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Fri Jun 17 12:11:56 1994 Message-Id: <199406171606.AA20422@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Fri Jun 17 12:11:56 1994 Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: (kau) and (du'u) and (jei) X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO la i,n cusku di'e > No, the property disambiguator is just plain {da}. That was my understanding a while back, but the last version of John's paper on abstractions says otherwise. > (Is it time to revisit my "Desperately seeking properties" > rant from way back at the end of August? John Cowan threatened > to respond to the "properties" half, but to the best of my > knowledge never did.) Yes, please do! I think at the time I was in anti-nationality-gismu mode, and probably wasn't reading all that was posted. > > mi djuno le du'u xukau la djan nelci lei plise > > > (and the {xu} could even be dropped)... > > I'm not sure about dropping the {xu}. I did once venture > {nakau} for this (I think it was a private message to Colin). Yes, it's safer to leave it there. I hadn't thought of {nakau}, but it should work. I still prefer to use only question words for indirect questions, because it's the most regular form. Also it makes sense, since {kau} means something like "the answer to this question". Jorge