Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qQMAQ-000023C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:53 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6100; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:52:01 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6096; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 23:52:00 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2194; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 22:50:57 +0200 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:47:56 -0700 Reply-To: Gerald Koenig Sender: Lojban list From: Gerald Koenig Subject: cukta To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 594 Lines: 16 The description of the x1 of cukta has been changed from "..not a physical object.." to "[a physical object or its analogue]". I take it from this that I can say: La djan benji le cukta mi NY mrilu John transfers the book to me from NY by mail. and I need to say: La djan benji le se cukta mi NY fonxa John transfers the book to me from NY by modem. Is this correct? Also, what is the analogue of a physical object? Is it always physical? Or can it after all be the information contained in a wave, for example? djer jlk@netcom.com