Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qRKuU-000023C; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:45 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8442; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:43:39 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8439; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:43:38 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3800; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:42:45 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:43:41 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ga'i[nai], ke'u[nai], va'i[nai] Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199407220717.AA19784@access1.digex.net> from "Logical Language Group" at Jul 22, 94 03:17:29 am Content-Length: 807 Lines: 16 > In this case, however, Zipf may argue for a reversal of meaning for ga'i, > since almost all examples of actual usage are of "ga'inai", and a lot more > people have reason to be obsequious than blatantly pompous. I support this. I also support getting the "va'i" and "ke'u" scales aligned, as long as we're thinking about changes. They both mean "say again...say differently", applied to words and larger constructs respectively, but "ke'u" and "va'inai" mean "repeating", whereas "ke'unai" and "va'i" mean "going on". Bogus. In addition, I would really like to see ".o'o" come to mean "anger", because "angry" is a fundamental emotion like "fear" (.ii). Can we still fix this? -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.