Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qSZjl-000023C; Tue, 26 Jul 94 02:47 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4561; Tue, 26 Jul 94 02:45:50 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4557; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 02:45:50 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2599; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 01:44:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:49:38 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: Response to Randall Holmes on Loglan/Lojban "me" To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 471 Lines: 13 > The fundamental point is that the technical sense of ME that I propose > is NOT "identity conversion"; it is conversion of multiple reference > into a predicate form (suitable for conversion to set reference, for > example). > > > --Randall Holmes I think {du lu'a} can do that job in Lojban, as long as the default quantifier of {lu'a} is {su'o}, as the grammar paper suggests, and not {ro}, as the cmavo list suggests. Jorge