Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qU4jj-000023C; Sat, 30 Jul 94 06:05 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3315; Sat, 30 Jul 94 06:04:11 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3311; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 06:04:10 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9427; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 05:03:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 23:03:50 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ga'i[nai] (was: ciska bai tu'a zo bai) Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 697 Lines: 15 LL> > "I humbly instruct you to come in to my splendid house", LL> LL> You are right, since there is no rank marking on "house" at all. One LL> deficiency of the current system is that there is no way of indicating LL> the relative ranks of two things/persons neither of whom is the speaker: LL> the system cannot be manipulated into referring to, say, "Your Majesty's LL> hovel", indicating that the house's rank is much lower than the LL> listener's. I disagree. With 7 levels, more or less, of honorific, there should be plenty of room. How about "ledo ga'inaicai zdaniga'icai" which puts the Emperor many levels above you and his house an equal number of levels below you. lojbab