Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qTvkU-000023C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 20:29 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8095; Fri, 29 Jul 94 20:28:20 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8091; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:28:19 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4143; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 19:27:22 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 13:28:15 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Empathy (was: ciska bai tu'a zo bai) To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu In-Reply-To: <199407252334.AA12438@nfs1.digex.net> from "Jorge Llambias" at Jul 25, 94 07:36:05 pm Content-Length: 821 Lines: 22 la xorxes. cusku di'e > la djan di'e mi spusku > > > > le jatna cu catlu le nu le bloti .uudai cu klama le xasloi > > > The captain looks how the boat, poor thing, sinks. > > > > > > The empathy is of course with the captain, not with the boat. The boat is > > > what inspires the pity, not who feels it. Should uu be stuck to the object > > > of pity or to the one who feels pity, in the case of empathy? > > > > Presumably still to the object of pity. Better yet, use a "sei". > > Do you mean {se'i}? Or rather, {se'inai}, "other-oriented"? No, I mean "sei", the metalinguistic comment introducer: le jatna cu catlu le nu le bloti sei le jatna kecti cu klama le xasloi -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.