Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qSelZ-000023C; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:09 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6287; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:08:02 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6284; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:08:02 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8890; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 07:07:12 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 00:46:21 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ciska bai tu'a zo bai Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 367 Lines: 7 If you want to attribute an emotion to an inanimate object, simply turn to any number of childrens' books. How about attributing "effort" to "The Little Engine that Could"? (One might argue that in these cases the inanimate object has been made a 'person' already. But there are others which are less clear, like the steam shovel in "Are you My Mother?". lojbab