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Date: Mon Jul 25 19:34:35 1994
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From: Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ciska bai tu'a zo bai
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To: Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@access.digex.net>
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la djan di'e mi spusku

> >         le jatna cu catlu le nu le bloti .uudai cu klama le xasloi
> >         The captain looks how the boat, poor thing, sinks.
> >
> > The empathy is of course with the captain, not with the boat. The boat is
> > what inspires the pity, not who feels it. Should uu be stuck to the object
> > of pity or to the one who feels pity, in the case of empathy?
>
> Presumably still to the object of pity.  Better yet, use a "sei".

Do you mean {se'i}? Or rather,  {se'inai}, "other-oriented"?

But that doesn't attribute the feeling to the captain. The only way to
share the feeling of pity with the captain seems to be using {dai}.


Jorge