From: nsn@vis.mu.oz.au (Nick NICHOLAS) Message-Id: <199407131235.27405@krang.vis.mu.OZ.AU> Subject: Re: New to Lojban To: nsn@krang.vis.mu.OZ.AU (Nick NICHOLAS) Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 22:35:46 +1000 (EST) Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu In-Reply-To: <199407131225.27386@krang.vis.mu.OZ.AU> from "Nick NICHOLAS" at Jul 13, 94 10:25:43 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 714 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Jul 13 08:36:01 1994 X-From-Space-Address: nsn@vis.mu.oz.au =telegraphese): I use an alexandrine (dedum dedum dedum, dedum dedum dedum), =which gives you four extra syllables per line As you'll have found if you actually counted the syllables in my translation, an alexandrine (in Esperanto, as opposed to English) actually goes dedum dedum dedumdee, dedum dedum dedumdee. Which makes it ideal for penultimate-stressed languages. In fact, I strongly believe that alexandrine, not pentameter, is *the* meter for Esperanto and Lojban --- whereas pentameter seems to fit Klingon as snugly as English (though Klingon pentameter is rather rough-and-ready.) (And Modern Greek only ever uses iambic heptameter. See the things you can learn by following Lojban list? ;) ). Nick.