From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Tue Jul 26 13:01:57 1994 Message-Id: <199407261701.AA06220@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Tue Jul 26 13:01:57 1994 Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: Response to Randall Holmes on Loglan/Lojban "me" X-To: holmes@diamond.idbsu.edu, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO > On Jorge's account, in his second message, his construction will > NOT work, for the usual reasons. Too bad! > Ok, let me try again. You wanted: > The construction Jorge describes (du lu'a ) sounds as if it > might work, if it is indeed the case that lu'a means "the > set of the things designated by ". I assume du means "is a > member of set..." Again, I do not know Lojban vocabulary. If you want literally that, then: (cmima lu'i ) is just that. cmima mim cmi member x1 is a member/element of set x2; lu'i LAhE the set composed of I still don't see a problem with {lu'i le nanmu} for "lea me le mrenu". I don't think {lu'i le nanmu} is a set with one element "the men", but rather the set that has "all the men" as elements. > --Randall Holmes > Jorge