From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Wed Jul 27 12:41:41 1994 Message-Id: <199407271641.AA27648@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Wed Jul 27 12:41:41 1994 Reply-To: SLAUGHTER Sender: Lojban list From: SLAUGHTER Subject: Re: Object and Event X-To: WAUGH X-Cc: lojban To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO Jack Waugh sez: >Would you call a candle flame an "event", or an "object"? yes. >Recall that the flame retains no material for long; all >its material is always flowing through it. All objects are some form of event. Nothing is permanent. The distinction between permanence and transience is (minimally) an artifical distinction of English. If the Big Bang predicated a cyclical universe that will collapse upon itself, even the universe is just an event in a larger frame of reference. I don't see the need to have object identifiers that distinguish this. Event should be the "timeless" form of a sumti, and an object the condition at a single moment or during a specified period of time, with that time marked with a tense marker. ************************************************************************** * Bob Slaughter * Model Railroading * * InterNet: Haldane@Pine.Circa.Ufl.Edu * is Fun!! * * * * * Bitnet: Haldane@UFPine * ask me about lojban * **************************************************************************