Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qSTct-000023C; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:15 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0057; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:14:20 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0055; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 20:14:20 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9449; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 19:13:28 +0200 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 11:15:17 -0600 Reply-To: Randall Holmes Sender: Lojban list From: Randall Holmes Subject: Re: Response to Randall Holmes on Loglan/Lojban "me" X-To: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 555 Lines: 28 Another error: (this was exactly reproduced in discussions on our side) le mrenu ga tera is proposed by LeC to mean "The men I have in mind were a threesome" which I would express by lea me le mrenu ga tera but of course le mrenu ga tera actually asserts that "each of the men I have in mind is a set with three elements" This is a canonical example of a situation where the construction I propose is needed and constructions anologous to those in natural languages lead to absurdity. --Randall Holmes