Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qTdCY-000023C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:41 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8636; Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:40:02 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8635; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 00:40:02 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3467; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 23:39:08 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 17:39:57 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: The Fifty United States ... X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199407281608.AA16937@nfs1.digex.net> from "Phillip Delaquess" at Jul 28, 94 11:01:27 am Content-Length: 773 Lines: 19 I haven't had a chance to look over these in detail, but I note the shibboleth pronunciations "luzi,enys", "mizurys", and (in Vermont) "mantpil,ier". Also, English "j/dg" should be Lojban "dj" not "dz". This seems to be a systematic error throughout the list. Why no "z" in Arizona? In general, I agree with Brian Gottlieb's emendations. In most cases, Lojban "e" is traditional for AmEng /&/ (the "a" of "cat"); this feature dates back to Loglan days, with some exceptions ("Ann" = ".an.", not ".en.".) Also, Charleston WV is "tcar,l,stn. baigad. .uestvrdjinias." to avoid confusion with Charleston SC. :-) Likewise "nu,rk" NJ vs. "nuARK" DE. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.