From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 18 11:31:05 1994
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Date: Mon Jul 18 11:31:05 1994
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From: Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: cukta
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To: Bob LeChevalier <lojbab@access.digex.net>
Status: RO

la lojbab cusku di'e

>  JL> x1 is a copy/manifestation of some work or collection of works x2 in some
> JL> medium x3.
> JL>
> JL> But that's not what the gismu list says.

> The gismu list ois not incompatible with that definition

I have in the gismu list:

cukta     cku      book
x1 is a book about subject/theme/story x2 by author x3 for audience x4
preserved in medium x5    1f 163    [this is a quantity of text, and not
the physical object (= selpapri); x2 may be a convention rather than a subject];
(cf. cfika, prina, prosa, tcidu, papri)


> "pride and Prejudice" is a "se cukta" or a "lu'e le cukta"

Great! Then the definition in the list I have is old?

> You can carry a cukta, write a selcukta, but writing in a cukta will
> normally deface it, unless it is the original of your selcukta

That's fine. Sorry if I was complaining without reason. It seemed from
your answer to Nick that you hadn't made the change.

>
> lojbab
>

Jorge