Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qRL0V-000023C; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:51 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8514; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:49:51 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8511; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:49:51 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4096; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 15:49:01 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:48:00 EDT Reply-To: protin@summit.novell.com Sender: Lojban list From: protin@SUMMIT.NOVELL.COM Subject: Re: ciska bai tu'a zo bai X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1176 Lines: 26 folks, lojbab says: > Remember that attitudinals for the most part are expressions of the self. > "ga'inai" expresses "I am so meek" as compared to that whch it marks. > > In this case, however, Zipf may argue for a reversal of meaning for ga'i, > since almost all examples of actual usage are of "ga'inai", and a lot more > people have reason to be obsequious than blatantly pompous. > I, for one, would like to see a language (& culture) that promotes the individual. Thank you for pointing it out. When I get back to doing things in and with lojban, I'll have to remember to liberally use "ga'i" and see if I can start a trend. (Any of you are welcome to beat me to the punch.) I have such disrespect for obsequiousness. Besides those that would use "ga'inai" have nothing better to do with their time so there is no reason to shorten it, although, I "ga'i" do have more important things to do than listen to their "ga'inai". thank you all, Arthur Protin Arthur Protin STANDARD DISCLAIMER: Any views expressed are strictly those of the author and are in no way indictative of his employer, customers, or this installation.