Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qSejc-000023C; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:07 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 6270; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:05:59 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 6266; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 08:05:57 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8838; Tue, 26 Jul 1994 07:05:05 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 00:56:32 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Response to Randall Holmes on Loglan/Lojban "me" X-To: holmes@DIAMOND.IDBSU.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 469 Lines: 18 >le mrenu ga tera le nanmu cu cimei As I think I said in an earlier message to you Randall, Lojban #+mei has a place structure such that the mass, the set and the individuals are all related: x1 is the mass formed from set x2 with member(s) x3 Thus if I did the third conversion (Lojban te, your fu), then I think we are correct: le nanmu cu te cimei The men are individuals who comprise a set with 3 members. Hopefully this withstands your scrutiny %^) lojbab