Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qSuqC-000023C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 01:19 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5322; Wed, 27 Jul 94 01:17:56 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5318; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 01:17:56 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0395; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:17:03 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 18:20:09 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: Response to Randall Holmes on Loglan/Lojban "me" X-To: holmes@diamond.idbsu.edu, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 375 Lines: 8 I don't know how "le" works in Loglan, but in Lojban its default quantifier is "ro" = "all". Then {lu'i le nanmu} means the same thing as {lu'i ro le nanmu} and cannot be a set with a single man as an element if {le nanmu} refers to three men. It means "the set of all the men I have in mind". I hope John Cowan is reading and will correct me if I'm talking nonsense. Jorge