From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 25 19:34:35 1994 Message-Id: <199407252334.AA12438@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Mon Jul 25 19:34:35 1994 Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: ciska bai tu'a zo bai X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO la djan di'e mi spusku > > le jatna cu catlu le nu le bloti .uudai cu klama le xasloi > > The captain looks how the boat, poor thing, sinks. > > > > The empathy is of course with the captain, not with the boat. The boat is > > what inspires the pity, not who feels it. Should uu be stuck to the object > > of pity or to the one who feels pity, in the case of empathy? > > Presumably still to the object of pity. Better yet, use a "sei". Do you mean {se'i}? Or rather, {se'inai}, "other-oriented"? But that doesn't attribute the feeling to the captain. The only way to share the feeling of pity with the captain seems to be using {dai}. Jorge