Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qOXDX-000022C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:17 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8653; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:15:48 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8650; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 23:15:48 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3862; Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:15:00 +0200 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 16:08:42 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: cukta X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 502 Lines: 16 JL> x1 is a copy/manifestation of some work or collection of works x2 in some JL> medium x3. JL> JL> But that's not what the gismu list says. JL> JL> With the decided meaning, is "Pride and Prejudice" a cukta? If yes, what JL> is its medium? The gismu list ois not incompatible with that definition "pride and Prejudice" is a "se cukta" or a "lu'e le cukta" You can carry a cukta, write a selcukta, but writing in a cukta will normally deface it, unless it is the original of your selcukta lojbab