From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU Mon Jul 25 20:32:12 1994 Message-Id: <199407260032.AA16299@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Mon Jul 25 20:32:12 1994 Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: ciska bai tu'a zo bai X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO la djan cusku di'e > la kris. bogart. cusku di'e > > Since the attitudinal is relative to the speaker it would never > > (I presume) be correct to say "mi ga'i" or "mi ga'inai" since you can't be > > ranked differently from yourself. Again quite different from Japanese. > > I think this is a valid corollary of the current rules. You and lojbab seem to disagree on what are the current rules. Lojbab gave the example {mi ga'i je do ga'i zukte}, meaning that honorable me and honorable you do something. That's exactly what I would like, but it is not what you are saying, and it is not what lojbab was saying (in spite of his example). Jorge