Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qUDLn-000023C; Sat, 30 Jul 94 15:17 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5275; Sat, 30 Jul 94 15:16:03 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5273; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 15:16:02 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6033; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 14:15:08 +0200 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 20:14:57 +0800 Reply-To: Chung-chieh Shan Sender: Lojban list From: Chung-chieh Shan Subject: current cmene project X-To: lojban@cuvmb.bitnet To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1251 Lines: 29 > As I understand things, "la beidjin" (for example) refers to something > named by the form "beidjin" (where the namer is the speaker). It would > seem to me that if we want a word for (in this case) the capital of > the Republic of China, we want something that instead means "x such > that x is Beijing", *NOT* "x such that I am calling x 'beidjin'". If > this is right, then Lojban Central should be seeking fuhivla, not > cmene, for the various states of the USA, etc. > > And My first posting on the Lojban list after lurking for ~1 year, and it's for this trivial thing... Mainland China == *People's* Republic of China, and Taiwan (official name -- you know these kind of trivial things) == Republic of China. Could cause trouble if sending mail, I don't know. Still waiting for the Lojban materials -- If Lojbab sent it over a week ago maybe I should check with the post office. Was it sent as a package or ordinary mail, and was it sent by sea or by air? Taiwan -- la taiuan. Taipei -- la taipei. (Or perhaps it should be la taibei.) Tainan -- la tainan. Gee, isn't it easy to Lojbanize already-Romanized names. ---------- Chung-chieh (Ken) Shan ken@cauchy.math.ntu.edu.tw "Ay, fashion you may call it. Go to, go to." -- Hamlet