Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qRXXZ-000023C; Sat, 23 Jul 94 06:14 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5661; Sat, 23 Jul 94 06:12:55 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5658; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 06:12:55 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7941; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 05:12:04 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 23:12:06 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: ga'i[nai], ke'u[nai], va'i[nai] X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 789 Lines: 15 .o'o vs, .o'onai change is sufficiently affecting of existing usage that it will take substantial agreement from the community to reverse these. But if people speak up, and someone is willing to check all texts up on the ftp site (at minimum), Nora and I can agree to the change based on John's argument that anger is a fundamental emotion. So speak up, people!! "ke'u" has a strong metaphor in "krefu" and hence should not change I think "va'i" (clue-word valsi) is less aligned, and could change without too much confusion, but again, someone needs to check for usage in published text. Unlike ".o'onai", I think such usage is minimal, and Nora and I will more readily agree with a milder consensus. Likewise, with ga'i, and ga'inai, where there has been little real usage. lojbab