Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qYpzY-00004sC; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:21 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2368; Fri, 12 Aug 94 09:19:58 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2364; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 09:19:58 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3667; Fri, 12 Aug 1994 08:18:59 +0200 Date: Fri, 12 Aug 1994 02:20:05 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Allnoun X-To: conlang@diku.dk X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1201 Lines: 28 TO> "The boy that beat the dog that chased the cat that caught the mouse TO> that ate the cheese that the maid left on the table." Sounds like fun. Here is Lojban observative-only mode. I think it uses much less grammar than the proposed Allnoun structure, but then I analyzed this in only about 30 seconds at 2 am. fetsyselfu pruselcliva ke jubme cpana ke'e cirla citka smacu kavbu mlatu jersi gerku raplydarxi nanla (female-server past-left-behind) (table upon) cheese eater mouse catcher cat chaser dog repeatedly-hitter boy Except for the parens conveyed by the ke/ke'e particles, all grouping is strictly pair-wise from the left, thereby picking up one word or labelled group at a time. (Hmm. I didn't really need that first pair of parentheses.) I won't explicitly put in all the default parentheses, since they should be obvious and VERY noisy on a screen. The string could also be inverted using the "of-type" particle, giving: boy of-type repeatedly-hitter of-type dog of-type chaser of-type cat of-type catcher of-type mouse of-type eater of-type cheese of-type table-upon of-type past-left-behind of-type female-server where all of-type structures group from the right. lojbab