Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qa5rZ-00004uC; Mon, 15 Aug 94 20:30 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8098; Mon, 15 Aug 94 20:29:01 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8096; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 20:29:01 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2117; Mon, 15 Aug 1994 19:24:54 +0200 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 1994 10:49:06 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: xruti To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 1119 Lines: 33 la lojbab cusku di'e > This requires approval of Nick, who is doing lujvo, as well as no objection > from the rest of the community. These are the lujvo using xruti in the version of the jvoste that I have: >> se'ixru to return (intr.): x1=x2 x3 x4 Not needed. Perhaps can be substituted by: xrugau to return (tr.): g1 x1 x2 x3 >> xrube'i take something back: b1=x1 b2=x2 b3=x3 b4=x4 b5 Shouldn't that be "send something back"? In any case, the places remain the same b1 b2=x1 b3=x2 b4=x3 b5 >> xrucpa to get something back: c1=x3 c2=x2 c3 Same places c1=x2 c2=x1 c3=x3 >> xrufle to return (of electricity after blackout): f1=x2 f2 f3=x3 f4 I suppose this is more general than that, but same places: f1=x1 f2 f3=x2 f4=x3 >> xrukla to go back, to return: k1=x1=x2 k2=x3 k3=x4 k4 k5 Same places: k1=x1 k2=x2 k3=x3 k4 k5 >> zdaxru to return something home: x1 x2 x4 Changes to: to come back home: x1=z2 (x2=z1) x3 Only {zdaxru} changes meaning, and "to come back home" seems much more useful than "to return something home". Jorge