Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA07244 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 4 Aug 1994 15:49:32 -0400 Message-Id: <199408041949.AA07244@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 7115; Thu, 04 Aug 94 15:51:04 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 7964; Thu, 4 Aug 1994 15:47:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 4 Aug 1994 22:43:34 +0300 Reply-To: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Sender: Lojban list From: Veijo Vilva Subject: TECH: Narrative connectives? X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Aug 4 15:49:43 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU I was just thinking... Logically connected sentences (1) mi nelci ti .ije mi nelci ta mi citka .ije mi pinxe can be conveniently shortened to (2) mi nelci ti .e ta mi citka je pinxe However, there is no way to shorten a straigth narrative (3) mi nelci ti .i mi nelci ta mi citka .i mi pinxe in a similar way. Sometimes it would be quite natural and convenient to be able to say, e.g. (4) *mi nelci ti gi ta I like this ... and that *mi citka gi pinxe I eat ... and drink Here {gi} is a new type of non-logical connective, a narrative connective. It builds loose compounds which don't fit well into the set of existing non-logical compound types. ({i} can be thought of as a narrative sentence connective.) This structure could then be expanded to handle afterthought comparisons (as I proposed in an earlier posting) (5) mi nelci ti .isemaubo mi nelci ta -> *mi nelci ti gisemaubo ta (still using the {gi} which Jorge wouldn't like to have :_) and tense relationships within tanru (not presently allowed) (6) mi citka .ibabo mi pinxe -> *mi citka gibabo pinxe which would be especially useful in certain descriptions (7) *le sipna gisemaubo cikna *le zukte giba'obo pensi Presently there doesn't seem to be any (easy) way to express these! co'o mi'e veion --------------------------------- .i mi du la'o sy. Veijo Vilva sy. ---------------------------------