Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qVRFZ-000023C; Wed, 3 Aug 94 00:19 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5823; Wed, 03 Aug 94 00:18:25 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5819; Wed, 3 Aug 1994 00:18:25 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1502; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 23:17:28 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 17:17:45 -0400 Reply-To: "Mark E. Shoulson" Sender: Lojban list From: "Mark E. Shoulson" Subject: Lojbanizing umlaut X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: Logical Language Group's message of Tue, 2 Aug 1994 10:14:33 -0400 <199408021416.KAA23155@sirius.ctr.columbia.edu> Content-Length: 1233 Lines: 29 >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 10:14:33 -0400 >From: Logical Language Group >X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu >la lojbab. cusku di'e >> I don't intend to require every Lojbanist to become a master of the world's >> phonologies, past and present. So when in doubt relying on spelling is not >> a bad idea for dealing with a name you don't know. And recognizing that the >> average Lojbanist will do that, the knowledgeable Lojbanist who is devising >> a Lojban name based on multiple 'legitimate' pronunciations, probably should >> choose the one that will match most closely with what the unknowledgeable >> Lojbanist will choose - after all, they might end up talking to each other %^) >This is related to And's point. A name means what the speaker wants it to mean. >But equally, as Mark says, you can't just make these things up and be >understood. Several people assumed that Pierre, N.D. was "pi,er.", but it's >"pir." Well, to be precise, I really meant "You can't make up occurrences as weird as this; they must be real." Whatever. >-- >John Cowan sharing account for now > e'osai ko sarji la lojban. ~mark