Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qVGTr-000023C; Tue, 2 Aug 94 12:49 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8100; Tue, 02 Aug 94 12:48:30 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8095; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 12:48:29 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8123; Tue, 2 Aug 1994 11:47:32 +0200 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 05:48:17 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: current cmene project X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1032 Lines: 24 JL> Is there any policy on this? How can you tell that {tcadrlondono} is a JL> culture word? "tcadr-" suggests that it is a city. Isn't it better to JL> assume that the place structure of a fu'ivla of this type is given by the JL> place structure of the leading gismu? For the London "culture word" I JL> think {britrlondono} is much better. JL> The classifier word is that - a classifier. With names of cities, you could indeed do this, but "cmacr-" on mathematical terms should not give you the place structure of cmacu. My reasoning is based on my "types of fu'ivla" If a name is a type-1 fu'ivla, then turning it into a brivla using "me" gets you the "pertains to ... in aspect ... Likewise if it is a type 2 (a Lojbanized name) So the default for type 3 would also seem to be the same, though we can establish conventions for particular classifiers. Type 4 fu'ivla, which should be based on significant Lojban usage, should have individualized place structures. Your suggestion on final vowels sounds fine to me. lojbab