Received: from access2.digex.net by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA18324 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 1 Aug 1994 09:54:10 -0400 Received: by access2.digex.net id AA28181 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lojbab@access2.digex.net); Mon, 1 Aug 1994 09:54:07 -0400 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199408011354.AA28181@access2.digex.net> Subject: Re: ke'u[nai], va'i[nai] To: lojbab@access.digex.net (Logical Language Group) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 1994 09:54:06 -0400 (ADT) In-Reply-To: <199407300254.AA23877@access1.digex.net> from "Logical Language Group" at Jul 29, 94 10:54:33 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 806 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Aug 1 09:54:13 1994 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab > You might check ancient history. It is possible that you raised the va'i issue > in the past and we changed it back then, which is why you had it backwards. > I'm sure this issue of scale direction has come up a couple of times before > but I am not sure with which words. Nope. The whole idea of discursive scales didn't appear until the first publication of the attitudinal paper in JL12, which already has "va'i" firmly as "in other words", probably on Zipf grounds (although the paper doesn't say). The first complete cmavo list of mine (as opposed to Taylor's effort) already postdated JL12. I'm afraid the whole notion is simply a "braino" (as in typo) of mine, and there is no accounting for it. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.