Received: from access1.digex.net by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA01332 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 2 Aug 1994 05:48:20 -0400 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA06909 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lojbab); Tue, 2 Aug 1994 05:48:17 -0400 Date: Tue, 2 Aug 1994 05:48:17 -0400 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199408020948.AA06909@access1.digex.net> To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: current cmene project Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Aug 2 05:48:22 1994 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab JL> Is there any policy on this? How can you tell that {tcadrlondono} is a JL> culture word? "tcadr-" suggests that it is a city. Isn't it better to JL> assume that the place structure of a fu'ivla of this type is given by the JL> place structure of the leading gismu? For the London "culture word" I JL> think {britrlondono} is much better. JL> The classifier word is that - a classifier. With names of cities, you could indeed do this, but "cmacr-" on mathematical terms should not give you the place structure of cmacu. My reasoning is based on my "types of fu'ivla" If a name is a type-1 fu'ivla, then turning it into a brivla using "me" gets you the "pertains to ... in aspect ... Likewise if it is a type 2 (a Lojbanized name) So the default for type 3 would also seem to be the same, though we can establish conventions for particular classifiers. Type 4 fu'ivla, which should be based on significant Lojban usage, should have individualized place structures. Your suggestion on final vowels sounds fine to me. lojbab