Received: from access3.digex.net by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA07276 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 10 Aug 1994 01:46:39 -0400 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA14135 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lojbab); Wed, 10 Aug 1994 01:45:36 -0400 Date: Wed, 10 Aug 1994 01:45:36 -0400 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199408100545.AA14135@access3.digex.net> To: delaques@GCG.COM Subject: Re: how do you say... Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Aug 10 01:46:41 1994 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab > ko klama le zarci rai le ka sutra I would think you want "serai" which is the place that takes the property. and would explicitly say ko klama le zarci serai leka do ka'e sutra to get the "As you can" part in. A more realistic request would use troci ko klama le zarci sekai leka do sutrarai troci (Philip's original "sekai" was missing the "leka") lojbab