Date: Fri, 9 Sep 1994 03:09:26 -0400
From: Logical Language Group <lojbab@access.digex.net>
Message-Id: <199409090709.AA07457@access1.digex.net>
To: veion@xiron.pc.helsinki.fi
Subject: Re: WWW Server Statistics
Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net
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Terminalk emulation is a functrion of my terminal software.  I just need to
learn how to use it and what if any limitatiosn it has, or use different
software.  Needless to say, I am trying not to spend time on this.

Independent backup is always a good idea.  Maybe we ought to exchange
if I can find a way to send many many megabytes to you after you get
the big disk %^)  (I use stream tape with Colorado Systems 'Trakker' for
my large scale backups if this means anything to you).

VV>If digex has kermit available, you could first save things in pure
VV>   ASCII to digex and then download them with kermit. IRC may be a
VV>   problem, though. OTOH, if you can upload the IRC logs to xiron,
VV>   I can try filtering them with AWK (which I must learn very
VV>   thoroughly as it will be one of our main data filtering tools). 

The problkem is that terminal stuff uses codes to reposition the cursor.  This
often causes jumps all over the place.  With IRC, for example, you get
jumps back and forth betwen two places on the screen if two people are typing 
at once, with one character then control codes than another character
and control codes - cut the control codes and you have gibberish since the
text consists of two independent English (or Lojban! even worse) texts 
interspersed.  YOu need a terminal emulation analyuzer that somehow 
recponstructs entire lines and knows when they are not changing any more
- an AI taks that might require info abnout the specific program function
in order to work.  Thus, I end up editing manually, since
I can tell more or less what the control codes are doing and more over I 
can recognize the text that results as being meaningful or not and thus
check my readings of the codes.

I though that gzip was NOT the same format as PKZIP.  I recall someone
once reporting that thgey were unable using PKUNZIP to expand the gzip 
files on the ftp server.

lojbab