Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qoou6-00001DC; Sun, 25 Sep 94 10:25 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4029; Sun, 25 Sep 94 11:24:22 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4027; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 11:24:22 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3704; Sun, 25 Sep 1994 10:23:10 +0200 Date: Sun, 25 Sep 1994 04:21:59 -0400 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: query about 'ka' X-To: ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 620 Lines: 12 "ka" refers to the properties of a bridi relationship which make the relationship true. In some cases, it has been recognized that we want to refer to the subset of properties of a relationship that apply specifically to one element of that relationship, e.g. the properties of you such that you are liked by me, as distinguished from the properties of me such that I find you likable. But both are among the properties of "me liking you", and there are some properties that pertain to the relationship ("a lot" in the statement "I like you a lot" indicates a quantity of something, which is ka mi nelci do). lojbab