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Date:         Wed, 21 Sep 1994 13:02:45 BST
Reply-To:     C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK
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From:         Colin Fine <C.J.Fine@BRADFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Any?
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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Since John has invoked me, perhaps I'll wade in to the discussion (I have
up to now been noticing it as it flew by, but not been willing to exert
the effort to catch it or get aboard.

> > But how do you evaluate a story:
> >
> > "lo nanmu cu klama co jibni lo ninmu .i le nanmu cu cpedu le ninmu lenu
> > kansa klama le dansu nunsalci"
> >
> > "A man goes near a woman.  And the man asks the woman to
> > accompanyingly-go to the dance-celebration."
>
> Colin has always argued that this is a misuse of "lo", and that "le" should
> be used from the beginning.  If some other "le nanmu" or "le ninmu" are
> possibly relevant, then we use the new "bi'u" (new info) discursive to
> control for this.

Indeed I have. The first sentence is indeed inherently true, and if I read
it in a story I will interpret it as this general claim, and not suppose
that you are telling me anything about a specific man or woman.

>