Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qkhYX-00005XC; Wed, 14 Sep 94 02:46 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3211; Wed, 14 Sep 94 02:45:07 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3207; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 02:45:06 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2720; Wed, 14 Sep 1994 01:43:56 +0200 Date: Tue, 13 Sep 1994 19:47:19 EDT Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: RE: do djica loi ckafi je'i tcati X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1289 Lines: 33 mi cusku di'e > > Since it would be very simple to allow BAIs to work like that (they're > > already allowed in forethought form, so why not in afterthought also?), > > I don't see any reason not to. > > > At least {mau}, {me'a}, {du'i}, {li'e}, {pa'a}, {fa'e}, {ba'i} and > > {do'e} can be given good use in this function. i di'e la'edi'u pinka la i,n > This appears to be off into hyperspace. I hope I'm misunderstanding you. :-) Let me explain. The problem is that the subject shifted a bit from the original question. I wanted to say "I need the box or the bag (I don't care which)". (I'm changing from "a" to "the" so as not to confuse with the other issue. This time it's about a specific box and a specific bag.) {mi nitcu le tanxe .a le dakli} is wrong, because if I need the box, but not the bag, the sentence is true. In fact, I'm not claiming anything about "I need the box" or "I need the bag" separately, so I can't use logical connectives that by definition can be split into two sentences. My proposed solution was to say {mi nitcu du'igi le tanxe gi le dakli}, and I wanted to be able to say the same thing using afterthought mode instead of forethought: *{mi nitcu le tanxe du'ibo le dakli} The other BAIs that I listed too can be useful as connectives. Jorge