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Date:         Thu, 15 Sep 1994 18:50:49 +0100
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From:         ucleaar <ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: TECH: RE: do djica loi ckafi je'i tcati
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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(A)
Jorge:
> Maybe what we need is a new quantifier "any" in selma'o PA.
> Let's call it {xe'e}.
>
>         xe'eti ka'e se pilno
>         Any of these will do.
>
>         mi na vecnu fo xe'eda
>         I won't sell at any price. (But I may sell at some price :)
>
>         do ka'e cuxna paxe'e selska poi xekri
>         You can choose any colour, as long as it is black.
                               [^^ - do we have an anglophile here?]

Wouldn't plain universal quantification suffice for these?
 For every x, x is one of these, x will do
                   a price, I won't sell at x
                   a colour, you can choose x

(B)
My contribution to the needing a box, waiting for a taxi, seeking
a unicorn debate is to suggest use of a NU cmavo meaning 'hypothetical
event' - "xuhu", say. Then we could have:
 I need it to be the case (though it might not be the case) that there
  is x, x a box and I have x.
 I wait for it to be the case (though it won't necessarily be the case)
  that there is x, x a taxi.
 Galadriel wants it to be the case (though it might not be) that there is x,
  x a unicorn & Galadriel finds x

where "it to be the case (tho it might not be)" = "le xuhu"

I make this contribution having completely forgotten what John Cowan
& Iain Alexander ha d to say on the matter a fair while back.

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And