Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qm1jn-00005LC; Sat, 17 Sep 94 18:31 EET DST Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 5109; Sat, 17 Sep 94 18:30:12 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 5106; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 18:30:12 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9881; Sat, 17 Sep 1994 17:28:59 +0200 Date: Sat, 17 Sep 1994 16:29:36 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: TECH: RE: do djica loi ckafi je'i tcati X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 15 Sep 94 15:01:46 EDT.) Content-Length: 1223 Lines: 45 Jorge: > The difference between > do kakne le nu cuxna ro selska > You can choose every colour. > and > do kakne le nu cuxna paxe'e selska > You can choose any one colour. > is that in the first one you allow to choose more than one colour, > while in the second one you don't. Does this have something to do with the scope of quantifiers with respect to modal operators? You can choose every colour: It is possible that for every x, x a colour, you choose x You can choose any one colour For every x, x a colour, it is possible that x is the one colour you choose. cf. Everyone could marry me. It is possible that everyone marries me Anyone could marry me. For everyone it is possible that they marry me/ For everyone it is possible that they be my one spouse Or am I treeing up the wrong bark? > The selling example is confusing because of the negative, let's start > with > mi vecnu fo xe'eda > I sell at any price. For every price it is possible that this is the (one) price I sell at > which obviously is not the same as > > mi vecnu fo roda > I sell at every price. For every x, x a price, I sell at x ---- And