Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qyBy6-00006WC; Fri, 21 Oct 94 06:52 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9482; Fri, 21 Oct 94 06:52:52 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9478; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 06:52:50 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3421; Fri, 21 Oct 1994 05:49:41 +0100 Date: Thu, 20 Oct 1994 19:22:31 -0700 Reply-To: "John E. Clifford" Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: "any" X-To: lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1421 Lines: 22 I,n asks where is the quantification in "Pick a card, any card." It must be where a truth-functional quantifier can meet an non-truth-functional directive sentence: at the satisfaction set, the set of all the situations (sentences, for convenience) any one of which being true satisfies the directive (request in this case?). That set is roughly {x is a card in the deck presented : "I pick x"}, that is , for ever x which is a card in the deck presented (the "hidden condition" in this "any"), if I pick x, I satisfy the request. This is a very different set from the one for "Pick every card", which has only "I pick every card" or the conjunction of the sentences "I pick ..." for each card in it. The "any" set is, however, exactly the set for "Pick a card", "if there is a card in the deck that I pick, then I satisfy the request". This is what logic says should happen in this case (assuming that the same deck is used inside and out of the intentional context). That same satisfaction set plays a related role in the original question , about "need" and "any" functions again to leap out of that context to home ground. It does it as well in "I will eat any apple you choose", if you remember that "will" here is intentional, offering to do something, not "just" a tense marker, so it makes the offer before the choice of apples but the offer is still only good for a limited number of apples. pc>|83