Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qsxmP-00005YC; Thu, 6 Oct 94 20:43 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2583; Thu, 06 Oct 94 20:43:13 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2581; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 20:43:11 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7727; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 19:40:16 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 18:45:10 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: A couple of questions X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 06 Oct 94 12:49:42 CST.) Content-Length: 1109 Lines: 36 Ken: > 1) Is there any difference between "lo broda cu brode" and "da poi broda cu > brode"? If they are the same, the statement "lo [unicorn] cu brode" > should be false, since noda cu [unicorn]. No difference. > 2) Has it occured to anyone that "needing" something might not imply "needing > to have it"? I might say in English, "I need a clean environment," yet > I don't want to have (i.e., to possess) the clean environment. Perhaps > this is yet another argument for constraining the x2 place of {nitcu} > to abstractions. Yes it has occurred to someone. > 3) Does the sentence > > mi djuno ledu'u do djuno ledu'u makau blanu > > mean "I know you know what is blue" or "I know what you know to be blue"? > Instinctively, the former should be correct, Yes, > and the latter meaning can be expressed by > > mi djuno ledu'u do djuno ledu'u makauxire blanu > > Am I right? I think you mean "I know what x is such that you know x is blue". (Rather than "I know x such that you know x is blue".) Clever question. I wonder leduhu xukau you are right. --- And