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Date:         Tue, 4 Oct 1994 20:04:34 EDT
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From:         Jorge Llambias <jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: admirers of 50% of symphonies
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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> I have been trying & failing to render into Jbobau three different
> interpretations of "(the) admirers of 50% of Brahms's symphonies"
> [a nonspecific pair of his 4 symponies].

Using {neltce} for admire, and {zgikrsimfoni,a} for Symphony:

>  (1) Each admirer admires some but not necessarily each of this 50%
>      of symphonies

lei neltce be su'o le re le zgikrsimfoni,a
The admirers of at least one of the two of the symphonies.

>  (2) Each admirer admires each of the same 50%

lei neltce be le re le zgikrsimfoni,a
The admirers of the two of the symphonies.

>  (3) Each admirer admires each of a possibly different 50%

lei neltce be re le zgikrsimfoni,a
The admirers of two of the symphonies.

> In the sentence "I met all the admirers of 50% of Brahms's symphs"
> these interpreations give us, respectively:
>
>  (1) There are two of B's S's such that I met all their admirers (everyone
>      who admires either of them).
>  (2) There are two of B's S's such that I met everyone who admires
>      both of them.
>  (3) I met everyone who admires two of B's S's.

In (1) and (2), the people you met may or may not also admire the other
two symphonies.

> Any of our didactic friends care to take this on for me?

Didactic? I'm not didactic.

Jorge