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Date:         Mon, 17 Oct 1994 20:02:13 +0100
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From:         ucleaar <ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: "any"
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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La Djer:
>         Looking at the above analysis it appears that the meaning can be
>         broken down into three elements.
>                 1. exactly one apple is under discussion.
>                 2. It is a typical apple. No outliers are under
>                 consideration.
>                 3. It is a randomly selected apple.
>                 4. (2) and (3) are connected by the logical &.
>
>         Maybe we need a word for precisely this.  It could be a start on "any"
>         Would it parse?  Are quantifiers proliferating to excess?
>
> XE'E, XE'E, XE'E, XE'E, XE'E ...........I heard that laugh, jorge.

Xehe indeed. This is pretty much my understanding of what Jorge proposed
& I seconded, with the following differences:
 (1) "one" is only a default, and any number can be specified. (As in
     "any five books")
 (2) 'Typicality' in the sense of 'average, unexceptional' can I think
     be left to pragmatics. That is, "I am willing to eat xehe one
     apple" *should* entail that I am willing to eat a rotten apple
     shat on by a skunk, and the fact that this is not what I intend
     you to infer can be left to normal processes of communication.
 (3) It is not *randomly* selected but *arbitrarily* selected.

So, in summary, "xehe broda" would mean "PA (and only PA) things
arbitrarily selected from the set containing every broda".

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