Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qxDDt-00006WC; Tue, 18 Oct 94 14:00 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3918; Tue, 18 Oct 94 14:01:08 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3914; Tue, 18 Oct 1994 14:01:07 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7683; Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:58:06 +0100 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 1994 12:57:02 +0100 Reply-To: CJ FINE Sender: Lojban list From: CJ FINE Subject: Re: 'any' as discursive To: Lojban list In-Reply-To: (null) Content-Length: 749 Lines: 23 On Mon, 17 Oct 1994, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > Unfortunately, I haven't seen Veijo's post yet, and my comment is really > off-topic, but I think the distinction is interesting: > > mi ba citka lo plise > I will eat an apple > > is always a prediction in Lojban, in the sense that it claims an event > that will happen in the future. On the other hand, > > mi [ca] pu'o citka lo plise > I'm going to eat an apple > > is not a prediction. It is a claim about the present, and of course > it is infected by all sorts of intentionalities, and it may be true > even if I never end up eating an apple. (It still refers to some apple, > not to any arbitrary apple, though.) VERY useful distinction. Thanks. Colin