Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qskse-00005XC; Thu, 6 Oct 94 06:56 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3712; Thu, 06 Oct 94 06:56:45 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3711; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 06:56:42 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2534; Thu, 6 Oct 1994 05:53:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Oct 1994 12:49:42 CST Reply-To: Chung-chieh Shan Sender: Lojban list From: Chung-chieh Shan Subject: A couple of questions X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1001 Lines: 28 As the subject promised... a couple of questions. 1) Is there any difference between "lo broda cu brode" and "da poi broda cu brode"? If they are the same, the statement "lo [unicorn] cu brode" should be false, since noda cu [unicorn]. 2) Has it occured to anyone that "needing" something might not imply "needing to have it"? I might say in English, "I need a clean environment," yet I don't want to have (i.e., to possess) the clean environment. Perhaps this is yet another argument for constraining the x2 place of {nitcu} to abstractions. 3) Does the sentence mi djuno ledu'u do djuno ledu'u makau blanu mean "I know you know what is blue" or "I know what you know to be blue"? Instinctively, the former should be correct, and the latter meaning can be expressed by mi djuno ledu'u do djuno ledu'u makauxire blanu Am I right? ---------- Chung-chieh (Ken) Shan ken@cauchy.math.ntu.edu.tw "Ay, fashion you may call it. Go to, go to." -- Hamlet