Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0qtcDn-00005YC; Sat, 8 Oct 94 15:53 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8908; Sat, 08 Oct 94 15:54:10 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8904; Sat, 8 Oct 1994 15:54:08 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5513; Sat, 8 Oct 1994 14:51:08 +0100 Date: Sat, 8 Oct 1994 11:49:14 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: Sumti raising X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Fri, 07 Oct 94 20:15:52 EDT.) Content-Length: 396 Lines: 12 Jorge: > It's when you use an "object" type sumti in a place that > requires an "event" type sumti. For example {rinka} means > "event x1 causes event x2", so you can't say {le brife > cu rinka le nu lei tricu cu desku} = "the wind causes > the trees to shake", because the x1 has to be an event. This is an unfortunate example, since we may reasonably construe "le brife" as an event. --- And