Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA19250 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 16 Oct 1994 17:34:49 -0400 Message-Id: <199410162134.AA19250@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4586; Sun, 16 Oct 94 17:36:05 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8751; Sun, 16 Oct 1994 17:36:05 -0400 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 1994 14:31:20 -0700 Reply-To: "John E. Clifford" Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: Re: 'any' as discursive X-To: lojban list To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Oct 18 04:16:42 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Veion suggests that 'any', when not all in disguise, is a discursive that means "no hidden conditions apply". His example, "I will eat any apple," however, seems to fail on both counts. First, the sentence as he uses it is pretty clearly not a prediction, but an offer. As such, it sets up an intentional (so also intensional and thus opaque) context. "Any' then functions as usual as a context-leaping universal, the whole being approximately, "for all x, if x is an apple, then I am willing that I eat x" -- "all" in disguise again, but outside the opaque context and binding into it, so covering real apples only (with no guarantee that here are any, as is usual with 'any'). Using the often illuminating dialog exposition of quantifiers, this offer would amount to the speaker saying "You get to pick the apple but I am willing to eat whatever you pick." But I, the hearer am pretty clearly not unrestricted in my choice of apples. In the first place, I only get one pick (well, certainly the speaker can withdraw his offer after some number, he is not committed to eating -- or even to being willing to eat -- every apple there is). This is a feature of the intentional part, though, not of the 'any.' But, further, my choice is restricted in very inexplicit ways: I surely cannot expect him to take the apple the queen has prepared for Snow white nor the one Eve gave Adam nor probably even those soft brown ones in the bottom of the barrel. "Any' is, after all, just the preferred bearer of such conditions as "within reason" (the usual formulation of the hidden clause). To insist that the speaker has agreed to eat a manifestly yucky apple is on a par to denying that all wild ducks in North America fly South for the winter because pet ducks, crippled ducks and ducks in city parks do not. The objections may be technically correct but conversationally irrelevant and inappropriate -- moderately good logic but abominable language. Veion's idea is a good one, IF he can find a case. But IMHO 'any' ain't gonna provide any. pc>|83