From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Tue Nov 29 23:39:08 1994 Message-Id: <199411300439.AA21347@nfs2.digex.net> Date: Tue Nov 29 23:39:08 1994 From: bob@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: veridicality in grammar Status: RO Here is a better English parallel to the use of {le} and {lo} in an `effortless', `well formed' manner. Perhaps David Bowen can live with this. A family is driving home one evening. Little George says, "We will go home." Mother corrects him: "We are going home." You could call George's utterance an inappropriate use of a grammatically correct form. You might say the same about {mi pu ze'i viska le mlatu}rather than {mi pu ze'i viska lo mlatu}, if the cat is for real. The point I am trying to make is that people do use the appropriate grammatical forms *effortlessly*. In normal circumstances, they did not insert the wrong tense in a sentence unless they make an effort (as I just did). In normal circumstances, they do not insert the wrong tense in a sentence. Nonetheless, people have a hard time figuring out how to categorize other things. In English, categorizing as to `what I designate', and `what is real' is a non-grammatical and difficult task; by hypothesis, in Lojban, categorizing as to {le} and {lo} is as easy as selecting the appropriate tense in English. Perhaps it will be hard to select the right tense in Lojban? Robert J. Chassell bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu 25 Rattlesnake Mountain Road bob@grackle.stockbridge.ma.us Stockbridge, MA 01262-0693 USA (413) 298-4725